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Receiving Christ Consciousness · Session 2 of 7
The Nature of Christ Consciousness
With Yeshua ben Joseph, channeled by John McCurdy

Greetings, dear friend!
Ahh, whoever you are watching this video, reading the transcript, listening to the audio, or however you are receiving this, you are my friend. And I am yours, and I have been walking beside you for more than two thousand years.
I am Yeshua, here for Session 2 of this little class.
So, there is this term that has become popular in recent years of “Christ Consciousness,” and I want to talk about that for a little bit.
The consciousness of The Christ, which supposedly was me.
Oh, we're not quite sure where that term originated: Christ, or Jesus Christ. Perhaps John will research it a little bit after this session. But oh, it has taken on a lot of different meanings.
Some say it is “crystalline” consciousness, which actually seems a little silly to me because crystals are something that are part of the human reality. But that's okay, if that is what resonates with you. Certainly, in the other dimensions there are energies that feel crystalline, but it is still a very physical description. But it's okay, for it doesn't really matter.
What I want to show you, to remind you, is that the Christ Consciousness is your consciousness.
The consciousness that I brought to Earth was not from some grand heaven somewhere. I did not come from some grand God up in the sky.
No, when I referred to The Father in my talks on Earth, I was talking about you. Because you were my father and my mother in such a real way.
You took your consciousness, a piece of it, and put it together with all the others, and then you infused that into me.
So, humans tend to think of Christ Consciousness as coming from some grand realm outside of you, and it doesn't. It comes from inside of you. You gave it to me, of yourself.
And now, our job is done. This project we've been working on for eons of human time is complete. I am melding back into the energies of which I came.
That means I am giving back your light, your consciousness. I am giving it back to you.
And that, dear friend, is the Christ Consciousness: Your consciousness.
Oh, I'm just giving you back a little piece, the little piece that you put into me. But it's a big reminder to you, because I took that little piece and I lived it. I expanded it. And now it comes back to you, multiplied and expanded, and it reminds you of who you are.
And dear friend, that is the Christ Consciousness: The remembrance that you are God also, that you are divine, that you are a sovereign creator being.
Oh, not so much at the human level, although there's a reflection there. But you, the being that is you, the soul that is you, are unique.
You are sovereign.
You are divine.
You are grand.
And no, you are not part of some grand oneness out there that includes everybody. Oh, there is an element of that, and we are not going to try to explain the details right now. But you, dear friend...
Oh, there is this idea going around on Earth that when you die, you just meld back into this grand oneness.
No, you don't. You go on, as a unique, sovereign individual. You never go back. You take the consciousness that you began with... Oh, wrong words, because you didn't begin.
You take the consciousness that you had before you created this incredible adventure, and you expand it. And you have added so much to it. It's like if you were a candle flame when you first came to Earth, now you are the sun. You have expanded so much!
And that, dear friend, the remembrance of that, is the Christ Consciousness.
It's what you gave to me, and this is what I now give back to you. Only I am just giving you a little piece, compared to who you are.
You are so grand, dear friend! And that is what I came to show you. That is why you sent me to Earth.
I wasn't here to save you from your sins, to take your punishment for you, or any of those silly concepts that you came up with after my time on Earth.
You had to explain it some way, and you know what? It really doesn't matter.
Oh, the church distorted it, but the church was you. You started it. You created it, and then it got distorted for all kinds of different reasons.
But it really doesn't matter, because what I showed you was hope.
What I showed you—what you asked me to show you—was a vision of yourself, of what was possible for you, of who you actually are.
Oh, I had to put it in terms that you could understand at the time. Human consciousness back then was way different than it is now, and there were only certain things you could understand. So I did the best I could with the words we had. They didn't always come out clearly, but it doesn't matter, because words are from the mind and they truly do not matter.
What matters is the feeling that you had along with the things that I said. What matters now is the feeling that comes into you as you listen to my words, or read them. It's not the words themselves.
Humans get so caught up in the details, and in arguing about the so-called facts. And dear friend, there aren't any!
There are no facts.
There is simply experience, and each one of you experiences life different from everybody else.
And each one of you are creators.
You speak of this grand creator God up in the sky somewhere, and it doesn't exist. Because it is you.
Each one of you are grander than you ever imagined that being to be. You are grander than that God. You are a more powerful creator than that being, ever.
You create your reality, and every reality is different.
Oh, you have this template called mass consciousness that lets you create similar realities, realities that are similar enough that you can share them, that you can talk about them with others and have them make sense. But none of them are exactly the same.
Two of you might look out the window of your home at the scenery outside, and you see generally similar things. But each of you is going to see different things, because you are each creating it different.
In mass consciousness you create them similar enough that you usually can't tell a lot of difference, but not exactly. Because look at the battles you're having right now on Earth over different ideas of how reality is, and how it should be!
And that, dear friend, is what you were hoping I would come and solve back then. But that wasn't my purpose at all. That wasn't the purpose you gave me.
At the soul level you said, dear Yeshua, when we get to Earth and we are interacting as humans, please show us who we are. Because we forget.
When we go there we forget, so we ask you to show us, to remind us...
Not of what is right and wrong.
That's such a silly concept! It's your creation and whatever you like is up to you, and that was not what I was here to teach you.
I was here to reflect back to you your grandness, just the way you are.
I was here to reflect back to you your sovereignty.
I was not here to save you from being lost.
I was here to remind you that you have never been lost. Never! You only thought you were, because here on Earth you didn't understand.
Oh, and you thought you were lost in other times and places and experiences also, before Earth even existed. And it was only because you forgot.
Mmm...
That was my mission. That was my message.
Oh, your Pharisees and Sadducees and all those religious leaders—oh yes, some of them were you—came to me and tried to tell me what was right and wrong. And mostly I just laughed inside, for it's such a silly concept.
And sometimes I cried inside, because it causes so much suffering. So much pain. So much trauma in your lives.
All of this arguing about what is right and what is wrong!
It reminds us of the story from Genesis, the creation story, where it is said—it's a beautiful myth—that God created the garden and he put these two trees in it. One was the Tree of Life, and he told Adam and Eve, “Eat all you want from that tree, and as long as you do you will never die.”
Then he put the Tree of The Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden and he said, “Don't ever eat of that tree, because when you do you will die.”
And humans being what they are, curious creatures, of course they had to play with that. And as soon as they ate from that tree, suddenly they understood right and wrong and the difference between right and wrong. And that knowledge literally ripped them apart, and it has been ripping humans apart inside ever since.
Because, dear friends, it is a lie.
It is the oldest and the deepest lie that there could be such a thing as right and wrong.
It's your creation! It's just an experience! No one in all of existence has ever been harmed, has ever died, has ever gone out of existence.
Oh, you've played games. Even before Earth was created you had battles, and you'd blast each other off into oblivion. And then you'd come back and play the game again.
There is no death.
I did not come to conquer death. I came to conquer your illusion of death, because that's all it is. An illusion. A pretend. A make-believe. An experience. That's all it is, and that is what I came to show you.
Oh, they crucified me. And the next day I showed myself to some of my disciples.
It wasn't because I had this grand resurrection. I never died!
I simply took another form. I stepped out of this body that wasn't any good anymore, that had been damaged. But then I took its essence, and I projected it, and I showed myself to my disciples.
And I spent a lot of time with my beloved, Mary of Magdala, and that went on for years and years after the crucifixion.
I wasn't walking around in a physical body, although I could create one that was like a physical body so that we could touch each other. But I could let it go any moment I wanted to, just disappear and be back home.
This earth is not your home, dear human.
Well, it is kind of home to the human animal. And even that is a creation, an illusion. It is not your home.
Your home—we can't even describe it, because it doesn't fit in the human mind. It is so much grander, so much more beautiful even than your Earth!
Oh, Earth has brought a whole new kind of beauty into your experience. And you have brought that home with you! And you can manifest it anywhere, any way, any time you want.
At this point, you don't even have to wait until you die to do that. You can do it right now.
You are still learning how to make that shift. It's happening slowly, so that it doesn't blow you out too soon, but it is happening!
That is what you are doing, dear friend. That is what Earth and humanity are doing right now.
Oh, not everybody will do it at the same time. But some of you are already beginning to create the New Earth. You are building it right here, right now.
Others will join you. Others are joining you, and more will come, and in a very short time there will come to be, in a sense, a split between the New Earth and the Old Earth. We can't describe how it's going to be, for we don't even know how exactly it's going to manifest yet. We're still working on it.
But there will be a place, for a time to come, for those who are not ready for this transition yet, who are not done with their human experience, with their power games, and with gathering the wisdom that those games bring them.
For that was the purpose, dear friend.
That was the purpose of Earth: To deliberately set up these games and these battles and all these experiences, so that you could come to understand yourself in them. So that you could gather the wisdom from these experiences.
Well, you've done that, or you wouldn't be here right now listening to this. You've already done that, and now you are just bringing it all together. Others are still on their journey of self-discovery.
And so, as you go forward, there will be—we don't like the word, but you could say there will be a division between Old Earth and New Earth. And many people will stay on the old earth for a time, until they complete their journey. And then they will cross over, until eventually it will all just be, perhaps, one earth again.
But however it plays out, you, dear friend, are coming into your completion.
Oh, the words are so limited!
You are coming into your remembrance, your knowing, of who you truly are. Of the grandness of who you truly are. And you are doing it right here on Earth.
Oh, there are all these teachings that say you have to die before you can come home, before you can fully remember who you are.
No, you don't. You just have to open up to a much wider perspective.
You have this thing called the mind. Oh, it's a beautiful thing! Don't ever, ever denigrate your mind! It is such a beautiful tool, such a beautiful part of you.
To say there is something wrong with it is the same as to look at your hand and say something is wrong with your hand and you need to get rid of it.
No, but you do need to remember that you are more than your hand.
Your hand is a part of you, an incredible, beautiful part of you, but it is not you. It is not the whole you.
So you created this mind, and oh, it's one of the most brilliant creations you've ever created!
Hear us when we say that: Your mind is one of the most brilliant creations you ever created!
This journey is not about getting rid of it. Oh, but for a time you locked yourself into the mind and blocked out everything else. And that too, was by design.
That too was intentional, and it was brilliant!
It locked you in, in a certain sense, but it gave you the opportunity to have some experiences that could only be had in that kind of context. In that kind of a box.
If you want to watch a movie, you can't do it out in the sunlight. You go into a dark room and you watch it there, so that you can be focused in on the movie and not distracted by all the other parts of life.
That's what you did with your mind, and it was brilliant! It was a brilliant creation, and now it's time to step out of the theater. That movie is over.
It ended two years ago. On March 22, 2023, the doors were opened. The bridge was finished, and now there is nothing between you and your divinity.
Oh, that doesn't mean it all rushes in in an instant and overwhelms you with all this awareness. That would literally make you crazy if it came in all at once! But the doors are open and there is nothing between you.
You've talked of this veil between you and the non-physical, the other realms, and it is not there anymore. It's open, and the energies are flowing.
You complain, for at the human level it feels like nothing is happening. But look at your life, and compare it to two years ago.
Ha! Many of you will say, “Well, from the human perspective it seems a lot worse right now!”
But dear friend, that's just because of this incredible transformation you are going through. Things have to break down before they can be replaced and rebuilt.
This journey has been likened to driving down the road in an old clunky automobile. It's about ready to fall apart but it's taking you down the road, and all of a sudden it starts crashing and banging and thumping and shaking and vibrating. And then the steering wheel falls off. You try to step on the brakes and the brake pedal falls off. You step on the gas and it won't come back up, and you're going faster and faster and faster down the road, completely out of control.
That's where you're at, dear friend. But there is a part of you that is much bigger than the mind, and that is in control.
That's the wrong word, for it doesn't control anything. Your soul doesn't control anything, but we have human words.
You could say it manages things. It is managing this journey. It is managing this transformation, as this old, clunky automobile around you gets turned into a high-performance jet airplane while it's still going down the road and into the air. And that's what is happening, dear friend.
Oh, your bodies feel like they are falling apart, and indeed they are.
Romana turned to John the other day and said, “Your body is so much more etheric than it was when we met seven years ago!” And John wasn't quite sure what to do with that. He knows it's true, and there is so much going on inside of it. And she wasn't quite sure what she meant, either.
Because, you see, that is happening to each of you. Your body is becoming etheric, and it doesn't know what to do with that.
It's not happening in an instant, because that would just make you another dead ascended master. And that's fine, but that is not what you are here for this time.
You are here to go through this as a human. To transcend the human, not just throw it off like the ascended masters did. But to literally transcend it.
And it is indeed like going from an old, clunky automobile, and while you are still driving down the road, having it begin transforming into a high performance airplane, or even a rocket ship.
That's why your body feels so crazy. That's why everything in your life feels so crazy right now. It's changing, and change always brings chaos.
In natural healing circles they talk about a healing crisis. When someone is starting to get well, they often get worse first. The symptoms get worse. And then they get through it, and then they are much healthier.
Well, it’s the same thing here. You are changing your reality, so the symptoms are going crazy. They are off the charts. But you will come back to balance, in a whole new way.
You've heard of the light body and you keep asking, “Where is my light body? Why isn't it coming in?”
It is here.
But to fully know it, you have to let go of all the rest. And that is a difficult thing. Unless you want to do like the ascended masters and just toss the rest away.
But you said, “No, I want to do this while I'm still human. I want to transition consciously, knowingly. I want to experience the transition from human to divine.”
Well, that's what you are doing.
Oh, don't cry to us, because it's what you chose. It's what you want. Even as the human cries and complains, it is still what you want. Or you wouldn't be here.
And it's difficult. It's painful.
It can be less painful, as you allow it.
As you accept what is happening instead of panicking and trying to fix it all, it can literally be less painful.
Oh, we're not going to play doctor here and tell you what you should do with those aches and pains, except to accept them.
Don't run from them.
Allow yourself to feel them.
Trust your intuition about what to do about them, if anything. But understand that they are part of a process, and if you try too hard to fix them you'll just slow the process down and make it take longer.
But this is about trusting yourself, so trust you.
Trust those aches and pains, that they are there for a reason.
And you don't have to figure out that reason. You don't have to know what it is, at the mind level. Your soul knows, and mostly it's not something that your soul can give you back in words. You just have to trust that it is all for a reason and your soul is in charge.
You have to surrender to that, and then you will know if something needs to be done or if it doesn't.
But don't panic. Don't think you are doing something wrong, because you are not. You are just going through an experience that you chose to go through. You really wanted to go through this, or you would not be here.
Your light body is here. It always has been, and now it is coming to the front.
Your light body was what gave shape and form to your human body. It is a template for it, you could say. But now it is changing.
Soon your light body will be your human body also.
It is not going to take that human body and heal all its hurts, and make it just a better human body.
No, it is replacing the human body with something that is very etheric, that can disappear in an instant and reappear in another instant, wherever, whenever, however you want it.
You are not there yet. It takes time, but that is who you are. That is what you are doing here.
That is what I came to show you the beginnings of, two thousand years ago.
They say that I healed people and that I did all these miracles, and it is partly true. And there is a lot of fiction mixed in.
But I could do some of those things because I understood that I am not my body, and that I am so much more and so much grander. And I came here to show that to you.
I had to do it within the very, very limited consciousness of the time, so don't latch on to things I was quoted as saying or you will get very confused, as you have before.
No, I was here to show you yourself, so look inside of you.
You were the one who taught me everything that I knew.
You were the one who put a part of yourself in me and said, “Go to Earth and show me who I am.”
So, the Christ Consciousness is about turning within.
It is about letting go of all of the authorities outside of you and turning within, and allowing your soul to show you who you really are.
You can do that now.
Your memories are coming back.
Oh, many of you are still holding them away from you, because you are afraid of them. And that's understandable, for some of those experiences were very difficult. And there were also beautiful ones, and you are letting them back in as you are ready for them. You don't have to worry about it.
If you feel like you don't know what your past lives were, or you're not remembering any of that stuff, don't worry about it.
John used to feel that way too. He would see all these other people talking about their past lifetimes and channeling and being psychic and all these things, and he was like, “Why don't I experience any of that?”
And then one day he was in a particular place, in a particular experience, walking down this hallway, and suddenly he had a flash from somewhere else, from some other time.
They called it a Madrigal Dinner. It was kind of a dinner and an experience set up to match a medieval dinner, and this hallway was decorated like the hallway of a castle, with guards along the way and dim lights. And suddenly John remembered walking into a castle to bring a report to the king, or something like that, and having the same kind of experience.
Then he realized that he often had those experiences of resonance, that were almost like a memory but nothing that would fit into the mind, or even into words. And he realized, “I do remember my past lifetimes, at least some of them!”
And then he realized that he didn't need to worry about it. He could simply trust that the memories that he needed would come in when he needed them, and the rest don't really matter.
At some point you will have instant access to any of them you want, but you don't want them all at once. It would be overwhelming.
So, you can trust that as you go through this process, everything you need will be there when you need it. The memories, the awareness, the money, the health. Everything will be there when you truly need it.
But it is not going to look the way the human thinks it should look. Because part of this process is bringing together all of that wisdom, and that means there are a few experiences you still need to have to really bring together the wisdom from all your experiences.
And sometimes those experiences include running out of money, or getting sick, or having aches and pains, or feeling lost, or whatever. And your job now is to simply be with that.
And you don't have to figure it out. There is no message that your mind needs to figure out in order to get it. You are getting it at a very deep level, a level that your mind doesn't even comprehend.
Oh, occasionally your mind will get some insights from this, but mostly it is just happening.
Can you just let it happen without panicking, without trying to fix everything, without feeling like you are a failure?
Because you are not.
Oh, every one of you, your souls are here. They are right with you, and they are so thrilled with what is happening in your life! Every bit of it!
Because you truly are bringing all of this long, long experience of being human to completion, to fulfillment.
Ahh...
Your mind is not capable of understanding most of it, or even of comprehending most of it. It really wants to, and it is comprehending more and more, but it cannot comprehend everything that is happening. And so it feels like it has failed, and it goes off and sulks sometimes, because it doesn't know what else to do.
That's when you need to remind your mind. Talk to it and say:
Dear mind, Soul is here now, and I speak to you as soul. And I am so thrilled with you and with everything that you have brought me!
So it is time to relax.
I am here now, and you no longer have to figure anything out or accomplish anything.
That is my job now, and all you need to do is just be in it. Show up. Be IN these experiences as you go through them.
They are all going to work out, if you let them. If you let me handle them.
So you can rest, dear mind.
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And that, dear friend, will do more than anything else to ease your way through this journey.
And you will get through it.
It is already done. You are just walking through the experience now, but it is a done deal.
If you popped out right now, it would be okay. You are welcome home anytime.
But if you popped out right now, you would get back over to the other side and you'd go, “Oh, look, I was so close! Why did I leave?” And you would want right back in.
So, just be in it now. That's all.
Mmm...
And that, dear friend, is Christ Consciousness.
It is a simple knowing that you are so much more than this human, that you are a sovereign, divine creator.
But sovereignty and divinity and being a creator is not like the human imagines it.
The human imagines a creator as a powerful being who can speak a word and change everything, and that is not how it is at all.
Oh, there are times when you speak a word and everything changes to match that word, but it is not about power. It is about who you are.
Mmm...
We know that dear John and his soul, and Romana and her soul, are going to be talking about all of these things much more. But I wanted to come to you, and I wanted to show you what Christ Consciousness really is and why I really came to Earth.
Oh, all those stories were the best you could do to explain what happened. You didn't have the consciousness yet on Earth, and the Earth consciousness was not ready to hold that level of consciousness, so you did the best you could to come up with some stories to convey the hope.
Because that, dear friend, was the whole point. The hope.
And with all of its imperfections and all of its power struggles, and with all the distortions within Christianity, somehow it always conveyed that hope. So honor it for that!
Oh, don't try to go back to the churches. They'll chew you up and spit you out, or you'll run screaming because it is so old!
Now you know the truth.
You can't convince them, so don't try. That will just create drama and trauma for everybody involved, so don't try to convince them.
Unless they are coming to you and asking for a new perspective.
Don't ever push your perspective on somebody who is not asking. They will find their way in their own time, because now you are here and your light, the same light that I shone a very dim reflection of in my lifetime, is here now, in you. And it is shining so bright!
And that makes me so happy, and it means that my job is finally complete.
Oh, you can still call on me if you wish. I am not going to fix anything for you, but I will stand beside you and have a chat, as a friend.
But you, dear ones, you are the master.
So many times over the last few years, John has gone into channel not quite knowing what was going to happen, and he would feel me. He'd feel me standing there and would ask, “Do you want to talk today?”
And I would shake my head and say, “No, I want to hear from the real master!”
Because that is you. I was just a part of you, and you have gone way beyond anything that I ever understood back then. So I want to hear from you.
And that is why I wanted to do this little class.
Oh, we are going to have one more session to bring this all together. And maybe I'll turn that session over to my dear mother from that lifetime, who indeed was one of you. Dear Mary. You know her as Mother Mary.
That too is a distorted version, but oh, she plays with it like no one else! She takes on the roles that people imagine for her, where she can, and she brings them compassion and love.
Ahh...
So, for our final session she will bring us an experience to bring all of this together.
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It is such an honor to be here with you today!
I am always, always beside you, even as my energies and my consciousness return to their source.
For you see, nothing ever ends. It is all you!
Even I am your creation. And therefore I can truly say, I am always beside you. Within you, even.
I am part of you.
But you, dear one, are the master. Not me.
I played that role for a time, and I am so happy now that it is over, now that it is finally complete.
And remember that: It is complete!
Even when you look around at your life and the world and your body and everything, and you see the chaos. That, dear friend, is because of the completion.
Because of the completion of what we have done, life cannot stay the same. But it also can't transform in an instant, because there are too many people involved.
But it is changing. It truly is changing!
And in a very, very few years you are going to start seeing the New Earth literally taking shape.
And by “a very few years” we don't mean 50 or 100 or whatever. No, we mean less than a decade, and you are going to start seeing the real evidence of the New Earth as it takes shape. You are going to start living there.
You already are, to an extent, but it is hard to see so far. But it's going to start taking shape very soon, because it is already happening. And it is going to speed up dramatically.
Mmm...
What an exciting time to be here!
We could go on and on, but it's time for a break.
Ahh, dear Mother Mary will come in for our final session.
And so it is.
I love you so much!
Blessings.
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